tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post4352829523898526957..comments2023-06-24T04:22:28.276-04:00Comments on Go like water.: In Praise of Andrew Sullivan. (duck and cover!)Stevenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03893392324561217969noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-35680560181215139692009-11-08T13:36:27.185-05:002009-11-08T13:36:27.185-05:00I have been meaning to check in on his blog more o...I have been meaning to check in on his blog more often - it's just my reading list is getting so big and where's the time? But I'll try. Sex is something that people have always (and always will) lie about, I agree.<br /><br />Do you think AIDs and HIV have made sex a more "conscious" act? Sex has always had potential consequences - pregnancy, disease - but the ante was upped in this century even though syphilis killed or adversely affected plenty of folks in the last one. Is it that modes of communication, travel and transmission made it more quickly global (and easily detected) than other diseases before? I'm pretty sure Henry VIII and Van Gogh probably had syphilis, but we'll never know for sure.<br /><br />It was New York magazine, and yes, I found it fascinating. The whole "premature aging" that is happening is horrible, but maybe it will help shake us all out of the notion that drugs can "cure" us, with no side-effects. My cousin's ovarian cancer has just returned, and this time the chemo is just so punishing. We were all living somewhat in la-la land thinking that drugs that could essentially kill every cell in your body could keep the wolves at bay. And that there wouldn't be any long-lasting effects - like osteoporosis, neuropathy, etc. etc. Maybe not a cure, but a window to enjoy life, before the next assault.xoxoxohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993751439653647136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-88466187543234513372009-11-07T17:29:59.095-05:002009-11-07T17:29:59.095-05:00It's fascinating to read the New York Mag piec...It's fascinating to read the New York Mag piece about HIV and aging after rereading Sullivan's 1996 essay. Sullivan was saying essentially that the new HIV drugs were changing our idea of HIV from death to illness. He was clear about how at the time we knew nothing about the long-term effects of the drugs or about how the body would be affected by surviving so long with the virus. That's what we're finding out now.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03893392324561217969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-41625577456182977632009-11-07T17:24:10.162-05:002009-11-07T17:24:10.162-05:00I think if you read him regularly, you'll agre...I think if you read him regularly, you'll agree that his positions are very consistent and based on strong personal convictions. I can't think of anyone with stronger conservative cred. His writing about gay marriage is what led me to see that it is a conservative idea, a conservative cause, and that the modern gay rights movement is no longer (if it ever was) about sexual liberation but about entitlement.<br /><br />The sex/cruising/honesty/HIV status thing is many-layered and complicated, so I don't feel like I can judge his behavior. First, people lie about sex all the time. Sexual desire makes people act in all kinds of irrational ways, so I tend to be very forgiving. Second, people choose to reveal their HIV status (or not) at different times and in different forums in the course of an encounter or relationship and have good reasons for their decisions. I don't know if he disclosed his status in the online profile, but even if he didn't I wouldn't assume that he never disclosed it. Third, I don't disapprove of HIV positive people having unprotected sex with each other, any more than I disapprove of HIV negative people having sex with each other.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03893392324561217969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-25252595419109422009-11-07T11:49:04.326-05:002009-11-07T11:49:04.326-05:00Sorry - you'll have to creatively read that la...Sorry - you'll have to creatively read that last post, done from my iPhone - with tons of typos!xoxoxohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993751439653647136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-3695159347422161072009-11-07T11:46:31.306-05:002009-11-07T11:46:31.306-05:00I read Sullivsn rarely, but sometimes like what I ...I read Sullivsn rarely, but sometimes like what I read. I have become disenchanted with all he poiticfl shows, even comedic ones, so rarely watch Bill Maher anymore. Hut what I think bugs most people about Sullivsn is that they can't pigeon-hole him. Maybe their problem, but the possibility always remains that he doesn't really have a strong personal or even ideaolgical foundation for his ideas. It's always OK to change your mind, and even brave to do it in public, but recanting his affection for Bush/Cheney doesn't get him off the hook for supporting them in the first place. I admit I don't want to go back on time and read his article on HIV drugs, but I wonder what he and you think about the recent NYT article by David France on the continuation of the virus in the body and the long-term effects if those drugs. I assume that with point 3, when he posted what he was looking for he didn't disclose his HIV status? If that's the case, then he us suspect again, not for looking for sex, but for not being honest in a public forum. It's not easy being an adult and dealing with illness, sex, politics, etc. But how do you want to comport yourself in the world? It may sound corny, but do you want to be a force for good or evil? Bush, Cheney, lying to people in a way that might adversely affect their long-term health - not good.xoxoxohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11993751439653647136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-48523412940164736202009-11-06T12:10:09.956-05:002009-11-06T12:10:09.956-05:00Yeah, I hear ya Mocha. I'm definitely suspicio...Yeah, I hear ya Mocha. I'm definitely suspicious of gay Republicans. But then again I'm suspicious of all Republicans. And Democrats too for that matter.<br /><br />I'm not so familiar with his pre-mid-90s writing, but, these days, I usually find him to be thoughtful and self-critical when it comes to his privileged status. However, he does have that annoying white middle-class habit of extrapolating a little too widely from his own life to assume that everyone else's experience is the same.<br /><br />I guess I don't mind so much that nobody can get a word in when he's on Bill Maher, since he's usually the smartest person in the room.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03893392324561217969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4779259220257272689.post-76986988705124394662009-11-06T11:56:32.547-05:002009-11-06T11:56:32.547-05:00He does annoy me, but I do appreciate that he is r...He does annoy me, but I do appreciate that he is rather intelligent and that when he changes his mind, he says so. I'm suspect of gay Republicans, especially white male ones. My take is that they are looking for the privilege of which they feel so unjustly deprived-- and Sullivan definitely fell into this category for a long time. But he finally got wise to the fact that his Republican brethren fucking hated him, and got smart enough to distance himself from the bigots. I liked the interview with Colbert but I can't stand it when he's on Bill Maher-- nobody else can get a word in.Mocha Jean Herruphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08227609654824445594noreply@blogger.com